2008 bmw m3 manual or smg transmission vs

The v8 is matched with a sixspeed manual transmission, as bmws new twin. I think most people who drive the new m3 with m dct will just leave it in auto mode and drive it like an automatic. The dct transmission cleared up a lot of the gripes that owners had with bmw s smg gearbox. We have 24 2008 bmw m5 vehicles for sale that are reported accident free, 1 1owner cars, and 31 personal use cars.

As well, in pictures i cannot locate the paddle shifters on the steering wheel. Whats the difference between the old smg in the e46 m3 and the. Search used bmw 3 series with manual transmission for sale nationwide. But, and there is always a but, the luxocruiser m models today are big and heavy and a manual transmission makes you work. Now that all my cars are stick shift, i miss the smg in the m3. The bmw smg transmission has both automatic and manual shift modes. Research, compare and save listings, or contact sellers directly from 23 2008 m5 models nationwide. New listing 20012006 bmw e46 m3 s54 smg transmission sequential gearbox 78k miles. Smg is pretty much a hybrid of manual and automatic, as it can be driven in automatic or manual mode.

Sep 01, 2007 although the 2008 bmw m3, which goes on sale next spring, is the absolute state of the art in engine and chassis technology, it remains the soulful driving machine that made its predecessors. Smg fully preserves the performance of a manual transmission, entails little or no penalty in fuel economy, and facilitates both automated and. Smg sequential manual gearbox transmission bmw m5 e60 m6 e63 08 m5 s85 v10 5. This gearbox shifts quicker than is possible with a manual and also. One good thign about regular smg s in bimmers, it will rev match when you do 2 to 1 downshift off throttle. Do not buy this car unless you have a written warranty on all aspects of the smg transmission.

The most common problem being the smg hydraulic pump failure and the obvious clucth slipreplacement. In other words its about perfect with excellent weighting, precision and feel. In the e60 m5 they have made it impossible to turn off the dsc with the manual transmission while you still have that option with the smg. Bmw m3 e36 e46 smg to manual conversion transmission kit getrag. The transmission itself is the same getrag typed sixspeed used in the threepedal m3. The sequential manual gearbox or smg is an electrohydraulic manual transmission system that changes gears depending on the. Bmws sevenspeed, doubleclutch automated manual transmission is now available in. Jan 24, 2011 the e46 m3 is actually one of the most reliable cars bmw has built in the last 10 years. View and download bmw m3 2008 owners manual online. The e46 m3 had a couple major issues, one of the lesser ones is the smg gearbox. A fivespeed automatic transmission offered in the 19951999 m3 was for poseurs. Discussion in e90e92e93 m3 200820 started by baz99, mar 4.

Is transmission repair covered under these programs. The chart below shows e36 e46 e90 e91 e92 e93 e85 e86 e83 e82 e88 transmission gear ratios. Search used bmw m3 with manual transmission for sale nationwide. Discussion in e90e92e93 m3 2008 20 started by baz99, mar 4, 2009. The 2008 m3 is the only car in its class with a carbonfiberreinforced composite roof, and its chassis and suspension are aluminum for light weight and near50. Bmw m3 e36 vs e46 vs e92 vs f80 ultimate comparison august 8, 2019 up next redline360 posted on january 28, 2017 january 28, 2017. Identical except for color, trim, and rear sunshade. Bmw m claims dualclutch and manual transmissions could soon. In recent years dinan has further expanded its portfolio to include. Smg first appeared in europe in 1996 and has recently accounted for half of all m3 sales outside the u. The manual may therefore seem like a more attractive choice, but. Its essentially a transmission capable of functioning as an automatic, or functioning as a manual transmission. Genuine oem manual transmission parts for bmw m3 for sale ebay. Initially, the m3 was produced with a 6speed manual transmission.

It features both automatic and manual modes similar to the smg gearboxes in the e36 and e46, but with. I moved to the csl after having a manual e46 m3 and my main concern with buying the csl was the smg. Take our your smg transmission, sell it, buy a 5 speed transmission from another model e36 m3, e46 330ci, among others, then stuff it back in the car. Manual e46 m3s tend to be more desirable and cost quite a bit more than manual m3s so often times owners can buy an e46 m3 smg and have it converted to manual for about the same price as buying a true manual. Also, if i was forced to have a drop top m3, im already at a weight disadvantage over the coupe. I just joined this forum a few days ago and am shopping for an e60 m5.

Bmw mandated the z4m cars to only come with manual transmission. Ive driven numerous manuals, but this was my first. Not only is the new doubleclutch gearbox faster than a manual transmission and a conventional convertertype automatic transmission, bmw says it also delivers better fuel economy and reduced emissions. The innovation is that, when functioning as an automatic, the driver does not need to operate a clutch pedal, simply designate desired gear.

Smg sequential manual gearbox transmission bmw m5 e60. Apidas excellent e46 m3 buyers guide this morning once again reminded me how quick some enthusiasts are to vilify any transmission thats not a traditional three pedaler. This m3 is the cleanest youll see on the market fully lo. Ok, maybe your grandmothers glaucoma is an overblown reason for her to get legal herbs, but thats beside the. Used bmw 3 series with manual transmission for sale cargurus. Aug 11, 2016 this tenyearold bmw proves why you should always pick the manual an e60 bmw m5 is still a 200 mph v10 super sedan, and in america, they sold them with a manual. Learn me on smg vs dct transmissions my understanding is that an smg transmission is just like a regular manual transmission with a clutch but the computer controls the clutch application and actual shifting. Purchased with cpo and bmw maintenance prog through 112014. Complete manual transmissions for bmw m3 for sale ebay. However, i think id have to go for the 2008 m3 over the 2005 example. The e36 suffers from the same subframe problems as the e46, but since the e46. This transmission has three modes, including a comfortable drive mode. A fivespeed automatic transmission offered in the 19951999 m3. Although the 2008 bmw m3, which goes on sale next spring, is the absolute state of the art in engine and chassis technology, it remains the soulful driving machine that made its predecessors.

Only some minor cosmetic issue such as wires and sensors 254384528893. E46 manual transmission conversion wiring, pedals, installation welcome to shoplifetv. The innovative new transmission is designed to operate at engine speeds of 9000 rpm with the m3 convertible redlining at 8400 rpm. Bmw oem e46 m3 manual or smg transmission 1404mm driveline drive shaft line fits. Hard top, premium package, smg transmission, leather seats, front seat. For 2008 there are minor updates, like revised head and taillights, along with active head restraints, some idrive upgrades, and a few new options. Im intersted in purchasing an m3, between 20032005 model year, and am unsure if they all include the smg transmission. The bmw 330ci is available in automatic and manual transmissions. Well, id like to take this moment to clarify a few things about bmws awful smg ii. Would like to hear some thoughts from m3 owners on the merits of smg as opposed to a manual transmission. Easier than option 1, cheaper than option 2, and the lightest option of the three, if youre aiming to race the car. If you currently want a bmw m car, you can still get a manual transmission in three of the cars in bmw ms lineup.

Bmw m3 e36 vs e46 vs e92 vs f80 ultimate comparison. Used bmw m3 with manual transmission for sale cargurus. Aside from that, youre looking at either dualclutch. The car was cut on fire but no damage to transmission. But all of you are missing out on fantastic vehicles because people with no experience with the system love to perpetuate the myth that the transmission murders puppies and gave your grandmother glaucoma. The v8 is matched with a sixspeed manual transmission, as bmw s new twin. When i had the m3 with smg, i did not miss the stick shift. Manual transmission 6 speed fits 0106 bmw m3 893460. While i have never owned a smg m3 i spend lots of time on e46f and have seen countless threads of smg transmissions giving problems. E46 m3 smg to manual conversion lang racing development. M3 s optional sixspeed smg automated manual shifted so necksnappingly.

Electrohydraulic manual transmission, also known as clutchless manual, or automated manual, is a type of semiautomatic transmission system, closely related to a manual transmission, which uses an electronically actuated, automated clutch mechanism with hydraulic activation, unlike conventional manual transmissions where the driver operates the clutch manually. In april 2008, the e90e92e93 m3 became the first bmw to be available with a dualclutch transmission when the 7speed getrag mdct transmission was introduced as an option. Todays video is all about the e909293 bmw m3, and the transmissions that are offered. Find out more in this first test by the automotive experts at motor trend. Blazing in toward 8400 rpm in sixth gear on an autobahn is even more intense in the m3 convertible. Look for a manual e46 m3 that has been well maintained and with the lowest. You can read up onsmg pump failure and how costly it can be to fix. Bmw m claims dualclutch and manual transmissions could. Other automated manual transmissions have their roots in a conventional manual.

Plenty, the dct is a complete evolution above the smg, watch th. Getrag smg iii singleclutch automated manual transmission until after the 2008. Genuine oem transmission parts for bmw m3 for sale ebay. Power is good, but it does not have the mendicancy of a big v8 corvette, b. The hydraulic pump often fails resulting in a costly repair. To make the bmw sporty and appeal to those drivers that love a manual transmission, bmw has developed an automatic transmission called the steptronic. Every used car for sale comes with a free carfax report. Jun 20, 2008 2008 bmw m3 with m dct double clutch transmission. As for the smg id avoid it because the smg is a mistake of a transmission and has so many issues. An faq for the commonly misunderstood bmw smg ii transmission. As with smg, m dct has a staggering 11 settingsfive in automatic d.

The dealer will sell you this car as an automatic with a 3rd. We get it all of the time whats the best bmw m3 for for track. I heard the 6 spd is faster which seems untrue since the smg switches through the gears faster than most or all people can. Founded in 1979, dinan is well established as north americas premiere bmw tuner. Hell, even an excellent automated system such as the porsche pdk gets crapped all over by some of the purist purists.

Bmw m3 smg to six speed manual conversion eurompire. Most of the descriptions exclude mention of the smg and simply refer to it as a manual transmission. Bmw m3 e46 modified vs standard manual vs smg launch start psd. Starting in 1997 on the e36 m3 sold overseas, bmw offered what they called an smg sequential manual gearbox transmission, which literally means it shifted automatically and faster than a normal manual transmission, but didnt have a torque converter or the commiserate rubberband driving feeling common to period automatics. I like to shift, but sometimes an auto can make life easier. Electrohydraulic manual transmission, also known as clutchless manual, or automated manual. The bmw m3 is not available with an automatic transmission and is only available in smg sequential manual gearbox or manual transmissions.

The first generation smg or sequential manual gearbox transmissions have not held up well over the long run and are starting to. If this happens to a car you own it often make sense to convert the car to a manual rather than fix the smg unit. The manual is an iteration on the m3 and m4s which itself was an iteration of the one found in the 1m. In terms of speed of the shifts, smg ii was stated to shift at 80 milliseconds. There are also lots of smg owners with very high mileage without any problems at all. This subreddit is dedicated to everything related to bmw vehicles, tuning, racing, and more. I just purchased this car and the dealer cpod the car. It seems like an smg is the best of both worlds, but it really doesnt shift like a real 6 speed. Mtflt2 manual transmission fluid, except smg transmission in 2006 and later m3, m5, m6. Although the technology of the smg sequential manual gearbox was really cool and had lightningfast shifting. Get the best deals on genuine oem transmission parts for bmw m3 when. As of april 2008, bmw offered a new sevenspeed getrag doubleclutch gearbox called mdkg or mdct as an option, which reduces shift pauses to less than a tenth of a second and shortens the cars 060mph sprint time by 0. Feb 10, 2008 im intersted in purchasing an m3, between 20032005 model year, and am unsure if they all include the smg transmission.